3 May, Judgement Day For Havering

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3 May, Judgement Day For Havering

Lorraine Moss
Morning everyone, well today is the day that the people of Havering decide who is going to be in the Town Hall.

I will be at the count this evening and will try and keep you updated with the results as they come in.  I know that the Recorder will be there as well so you can also check their Twitter feed.

Good luck to everyone who is standing and may the best candidates win.
“Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world...would do this, it would change the earth.”
― William Faulkner--
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Phil Wailing
Good Luck Lorraine, I don't think I will bother going to the count but I am sure Denis will be there.
We haven't inherited the earth from our parents, we have borrowed it from our children.
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Lorraine Moss
Thanks Phil.  I will look out for him.  
“Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world...would do this, it would change the earth.”
― William Faulkner--
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confused of hornchurch

Good luck Lorraine.
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Lorraine Moss
Thanks Confused.
“Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world...would do this, it would change the earth.”
― William Faulkner--
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bellend
at the risk of making this forum sound biased GOOD LUCK LORRAINE
If we learn from our mistakes, why aint I a genius, If you educate the masses where's the advantage for the few?

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Lorraine Moss
Thanks Bellend.
“Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world...would do this, it would change the earth.”
― William Faulkner--
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confused of hornchurch

Havering gets a mention in the Guardian.

In Brexit stronghold of Havering, immigration is less of an issue now
Local elections

Local election Labour candidates say crime and housing have moved up the list of concerns
Nadia Khomami
Wed 2 May 2018 20.14 BST
Last modified on Wed 2 May 2018 20.29 BST
 
The Conservative MP Andrew Rosindell celebrated the triggering of article 50 in March last year with local party workers and supporters at Margret Thatcher House in Romford. Photograph: Sean Smith for the Guardian.
Last summer a row erupted over Havering council’s plan to split from the rest of London. The motion, tabled by a Ukip councillor and dubbed “Hexit”, was an attempt to solve the east London borough’s so-called “identity crisis”.
“It was laughed out of the chamber,” says Fay Hough, the 30-year-old Labour candidate for the Rainham & Wennington ward in the upcoming local elections, “because there were no positives. We would have lost funding, the London living wage, even the Freedom pass.”
The vote, Hough adds, was part of a trend in which Labour’s opposition has billed the London mayor, Sadiq Khan, as a figure of dislike from whom they want a divorce.
A recent Tory campaign to “Keep Havering Safe”, for example, was accused of “dog-whistle racism” after leaflets were distributed warning that the borough could soon resemble diverse “inner city” areas under Khan.
“I think there are local politicians who are playing on people’s fear of difference,” says Kim Arrowsmith, another Labour candidate.

“The demographic of the area is changing, and over time that will make that kind of politics very difficult to sell. The fear will dissipate.”
Havering was one of London’s most pro-Brexit areas, with 70% of the borough’s population voting leave in the EU referendum. As a pro-Europe party, Labour was almost wiped out in the last local elections and currently holds only two out of 54 council seats. But while the predominance of successful candidates from residents associations means the party is unlikely to win control from the Tories, it hopes to make gains and believes the decline of Ukip could prove to be helpful.
Immigration, the candidates say, is less of an issue now, with housing and crime coming up most often on the doorstep. “We’ve got a bidding system for council housing which is seen as not-fit-for-purpose,” says Arrowsmith. “And a lot of privately rented places aren’t accepting benefits any more. What I find comes up a lot is single mums who can’t work full-time but can’t rent a place.”

“And I’ve had a few people who say ‘my 28-year-old daughter’s still living with me at home, there’s no way she can afford to move in on her own’,” says Hough, who has been volunteering for local MP Jon Cruddas’s office for two years.
Havering is no stranger to regeneration, and estates are being knocked down to make way for new developments. But Labour say there are no assurances of right to return. The borough is also the site of Orchard Village, a housing development so plagued with issues related to building quality that it has faced calls for demolition.
On the streets of Rainham, which the candidates call “the forgotten part of Havering”, most of the people who open the door are friendly and responsive.
“Crime often comes up,” says Nicholas West, a 23-year-old prospective Labour councillor. “The anxiety last summer was so extreme because of moped robberies. Knife crime has been an issue too. When I was growing up I had youth centres to go to, now there’s nothing for the kids. Over the Easter holidays the kids are just on the street bored. And that’s when they’re most vulnerable to being taken in by gangs.”
A police station in the area had to recently shut because of cuts, West adds. All this plays into the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn’s strategy of putting housing and crime at the heart of his party’s bid to take over Tory local authorities.
 I've had a few people who say 'my daughter's still living with me, there's no way she can afford to move in on her own'
Fay Hough
Such national politics can work for and against the local candidates on the doorstep, Arrowsmith says. “People sometimes say ‘you’re all the same’. National politics helped with that, because no one can say Labour and the Tories are the same any more. We’re seeing a much more positive picture because voters are ready for change. Jeremy represents a break from the past. The Tories really targeted Dagenham and Rainham in the general election but Jon Cruddas’ majority went up.”
As we’re walking through Rainham, one woman stops us in the street. “Just so you know I’ll be voting Labour,” she says. “I’m a new member. I’ve worked in the public sector for 15 years. I just thought I’d stop you and say good luck.”
“I swear we did not set that up,” Hough says cheerfully afterwards. “People are becoming more aware now. When I was door-knocking for Brexit, a few houses had massive Ukip posters saying ‘vote leave’.
“I’ve door-knocked them recently and they’re all Labour. Work that one out.”
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fred
Ah The Gruniad bless it Liebour must be desperate in Havering if there’s a piece in there,probably a missive from the Socialist State of Islington,paper of repute under Peter Preston not so much now,run into the ground by dogma over facts unpalatable as they may be.
It may never get over Trump.
The last editor is now the Master at an Oxford College........
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confused of hornchurch

I posted that on the grounds of impartiality, but it's strange that so far I have not had a canvasser for the Labour party knock at my door.

Maybe they're not that interested in winning?
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fred
Us neither,it’s the impression you get,bun fight between the Tories and the RAs in whatever guise their under probably.
Used to like nights in the news room at The Guardian after it had quitened down,Reuters for foreign and PA for home news reported as factually as they could get it,then watch the spin put on those stories depending whether the paper concerned was to the right or left of the political spectrum the next day,you only read about 10% of whats happened anyway otherwise you would be still reading Monday’s paper Tuesday week.
Some are better than others,but the only thing factual is the date,but double check.
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Re: 3 May, Judgement Day For Havering

Percy
The independents have parked right outside the polling station in Rainham with huge posters.
Revolutions are always verbose.
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dalek1
Ain't doing anything wrong so long as they stay off the premises.
Haven't voted yet but saw dear Viddy on the courtyard of the polling station watching from Iceland in London road.
As I left to go home who did I see but Rosser and what looked like Benham turning into the polling station car park.
Only caught a brief glimpse of Benhams dial but he had a face like thunder.
Is Humpty Dumpty about to have a great fall?
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Re: 3 May, Judgement Day For Havering

Lorraine Moss
Andrew Blake Herbert was at the polling station at My Place. He said that so far it has been a very low turn out. It would seem that many are not bothering to vote. Hopefully, more will turn up when they finish work.
“Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world...would do this, it would change the earth.”
― William Faulkner--
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dalek1
I don't suppose you asked him what's going in his piggy bank as returning officer for the whole borough?
I for one would like to know.
Nice little earner for him after he slashed council staff wages by 5%.
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fred
Just on 10% turnout with 4 hours to go in Havering Park,lady said she’s never known it so quiet.Lib Dems,Liebour,UKIP and a cave dweller were on the ballot paper,but not on the streets over the last couple of weeks.
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Re: 3 May, Judgement Day For Havering

fred
Oh and the Tories.
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Peter W.
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Best of luck Lorraine and anyone else who is standing today.

Just back in after an 11 hour shift of leafleting / canvassing.Some amusing sights seen along the way including Tories outside the polling stations in Petitts,Romford Town and Hylands.Had to tell Councillor Misir at 7.30am this morning that he couldn’t count on my vote....tbf he was quite sanguine about it when I informed him I’d be voting for myself.

Highlight of the day was seeing Mr Rosindell turn up at the Romford Town polling station after his candidate called for back up when outnumbered by Labour supporters.

Thanks everyone on here for your civility towards me over the last few weeks....much appreciated.Lets hope there’s a few dents put in the Tory numbers when the votes are counted in the small hours.
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fred
Best of luck mate,as l said before whatever the result in your ward you’ve give it a go so you can hold your head up.
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dalek1
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Just come back from casting my vote and Rosindell seems to have set up camp at Crowlands school.
Spoke to two of the Labour candidates who advised me he'd been twice chucked off the premises and thanks to yours truly he got his hat trick.
When I spoke to presiding officer his comment was not again.
Also saw Dervish pitch up to lend support probably to Labour.
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